{"id":447,"date":"2018-12-18T16:15:45","date_gmt":"2018-12-18T22:15:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/?p=447"},"modified":"2018-12-19T16:03:01","modified_gmt":"2018-12-19T22:03:01","slug":"how-john-creuzot-plans-to-reform-dallas-county-criminal-justice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/2018\/12\/18\/how-john-creuzot-plans-to-reform-dallas-county-criminal-justice\/","title":{"rendered":"How John Creuzot Plans to Reform Criminal Justice In Dallas County"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When John Creuzot takes office in January as Dallas County district attorney, he promises to usher in a new era of prosecution.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s time for real criminal justice reform in Dallas County and we\u2019re going to deliver,\u201d he proclaimed to an enthusiastic crowd of Democrats gathered on election night. Creuzot won 60 percent of the vote, beating out Republican incumbent Faith Johnson.<\/p>\n<p>Standing on the stage at the Hilton Regency ballroom, Creuzot laid out an expansive agenda, pledging to decline prosecution for first-time marijuana possession, to pursue drug treatment for drug offenders instead of sending them to prison, to refuse to revoke probation for technical violations, to bulk up a conviction integrity unit to make sure wrongfully convicted people don\u2019t stay in prison, and to fight for bail reform.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHow about an end to the excuses?\u201d he bellowed to cheering supporters. \u201cHow about making sure that if you\u2019re poor you don\u2019t get ripped off by the criminal justice system?\u201d <\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_457\" style=\"max-width:100%;  width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-457\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190.jpg\" alt=\"Dallas County District Attorney-elect, Judge John Creuzot, poses for a portrait outside the Frank Crowley Courts Building. Photo: Allison V. Smith\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190-800x533.jpg 800w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/0120318KERAcreuzot0190-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\"style=\"max-width:100%;  width: 450px\" >Homeless people are &#8220;generally the ones who are taken to jail, but they&#8217;re also the ones who are in greater need of services,\u201d Creuzot says. (Photo: Allison V. Smith)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>This kind of speechifying doesn\u2019t always seem to come naturally to Creuzot, a criminal justice wonk who says his policy reforms will be based in rigorous data gathering and a careful study of best practices.<\/p>\n<p>More typically, Creuzot delivers withering analyses of the criminal justice system\u2019s flaws and excesses in a straightforward way. It takes a moment to sink in that, this time, he sounds more like an activist than someone who\u2019ll be the top law enforcement officer of Texas\u2019 second-largest county.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, I mean, historically, if you\u2019re poor you\u2019re more likely to go to the penitentiary,\u201d he says simply, adding that little has changed.<\/p>\n<p>Poor people and people of color are more likely to be arrested, to get charged more severely, get offered less-lenient plea deals and get longer jail and prison sentences; just look at the data, he says.<\/p>\n<h5>Tackling drug sentences<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nCreuzot, a one-time prosecutor and current-day defense attorney, made a name for himself as a judge by launching Dallas County\u2019s first <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/templates\/story\/story.php?storyId=93614135\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">drug court<\/a> back in 1998, offering drug abusers addiction treatment in lieu of incarceration. It was effective, he\u2019ll tell you: a 68 percent reduction in re-arrests and $9.43 in criminal justice cost savings for every dollar spent on the drug court.<\/p>\n<p>Today, resources in the district attorney\u2019s office are too-often spent on small-time and non-violent offenses tied to larger issues like poverty, addiction and mental illness \u2014 resources, he says, that should be freed up to focus on prosecuting violent, hardened criminals.<\/p>\n<div class=\"kerabox boxwidth100\"  style='background:#F5F5F5;'>\n<h5>Drugs and incarceration<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nSentencing policies during the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.drugpolicy.org\/issues\/brief-history-drug-war\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">War on Drugs<\/a> era led to a steep growth in imprisonment for drug offenses. The number of Americans incarcerated for drugs has increased from 40,900 in 1980 to 450,345 in 2016. Also, sentencing laws like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cjpf.org\/mandatory-minimums\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mandatory minimums<\/a> keep many people convicted of drug offenses in prison for longer periods.<\/p>\n<div class=\"infogram-embed\" data-id=\"d7a1844a-1f64-41e5-afa1-0f0c0c31e4f1\" data-type=\"interactive\" data-title=\"oca prison: creuzot\"><\/div>\n<p><script>!function(e,t,s,i){var n=\"InfogramEmbeds\",o=e.getElementsByTagName(\"script\")[0],d=\/^http:\/.test(e.location)?\"http:\":\"https:\";if(\/^\\\/{2}\/.test(i)&&(i=d+i),window[n]&&window[n].initialized)window[n].process&&window[n].process();else if(!e.getElementById(s)){var r=e.createElement(\"script\");r.async=1,r.id=s,r.src=i,o.parentNode.insertBefore(r,o)}}(document,0,\"infogram-async\",\"https:\/\/e.infogram.com\/js\/dist\/embed-loader-min.js\");<\/script><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>In 2017, the district attorney\u2019s office filed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tjcengage.org\/dallas-county-misdemeanor-data\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">more than 7,000<\/a> misdemeanor pot possession charges \u2014 4 ounces of marijuana or less. Creuzot says that exacerbates racial disparities because people of color are more likely to be charged with small-time drug crimes than whites, despite equal drug usage.<\/p>\n<p>That same year, the DA\u2019s office charged more than 600 homeless people with criminal trespass, which Creuzot says amounts to charging chronically homeless people <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keranews.org\/post\/being-homeless-isnt-against-law-sleeping-streets-comes-cost\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">for being homeless<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re generally the ones who are taken to jail, but they\u2019re also the ones who are in greater need of services,\u201d Creuzot says. \u201cThey\u2019re not going to get those services in the Dallas County jail or other county jails, so it begs the question, why are we putting them in jail?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Creuzot, the office needs more than a change in policy. He wants a complete reorientation of prosecutorial philosophy. It\u2019s the rallying cry of a <a href=\"https:\/\/prospect.org\/article\/new-reformer-das\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">growing cadre<\/a> of reform-minded prosecutors nationwide.<\/p>\n<div class=\"kerabox boxwidth33\"  style='background:#F5F5F5;'><strong>Local district attorneys are just one player in the criminal justice system, but they&#8217;re a powerful one. They control:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00bb who gets charged with a crime<br \/>\n\u00bb what charges get dropped<br \/>\n\u00bb whether to pursue a death sentence<br \/>\n\u00bb whether to charge a youth as an adult<br \/>\n\u00bb whether a person can enter a diversion or treatment program<br \/>\n\u00bb plea deals that set a person&#8217;s punishment<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cWhat we see John Creuzot doing, what we see others doing in other parts of the country, is really taking to heart a different starting point for prosecutors,\u201d says Miriam Krinsky, the executive director of <a href=\"https:\/\/fairandjustprosecution.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fair and Just Prosecution<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Krinsky, a former federal prosecutor, works with about 30 local prosecutors who want to rein in long-standing punitive policies that they say have marginalized communities, quintupled the nation\u2019s prison population and, ultimately, proven largely ineffective at increasing public safety.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen we look around the country, we do see that communities that reduce their rates of incarceration have also seen that crime rates have fallen at the same time,\u201d Krinsky says.<\/p>\n<p>Fair and Just Prosecution released a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.brennancenter.org\/sites\/default\/files\/publications\/FJP_21Principles_FINAL.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">blueprint<\/a> for prosecutorial reform earlier this month, laying out 21 steps to make the justice system more transparent, more equal and more effective. Prosecutors have a powerful position as decision-makers in the criminal justice system, the group argues, so they have an important role to play in ending mass incarceration.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe really should be using incarceration as an exception to the rule,\u201d Krinsky says. \u201cIncarceration should really be used for those few cases where there really is no alternative but to remove that individual from the community. And, unfortunately, that hasn\u2019t been the starting point in the past.\u201d<\/p>\n<h5>Wade: &#8216;A reputation for strong prosecution&#8217;<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nFor decades, district attorneys across the country were judged for how tough they were on crime. And no one was tougher than <strong>Henry Wade<\/strong>, the legendary Dallas County DA from 1951 to 1987. The cigar-chomping embodiment of Texas justice was the Wade in Roe v. Wade. He prosecuted Jack Ruby for killing the man who assassinated President John Kennedy.<\/p>\n<p>For 36 years, Wade oversaw an office that piled up conviction after conviction on high-profile cases and against low-level offenders.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI hope I have a reputation for strong prosecution,\u201d Wade told KERA in 1986. \u201cI\u2019m trying to build one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3r9TebXZX6c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>In the years since, that reputation for strong prosecution came to be seen as a win-at-all-costs approach that prized conviction over justice.<\/p>\n<p>In 2007, <strong>Craig Watkins<\/strong> drew national attention as the first black DA in Texas, and for setting up a conviction integrity unit in Dallas that exonerated innocent people who\u2019d been wrongfully convicted, many by Henry Wade\u2019s prosecution machine.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe threw this whole idea of dispensing justice out the window. We didn\u2019t care if a person was innocent or a person was guilty,\u201d Watkins said in a 2008 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VRQY2GDDFnw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">speech<\/a>. \u201cWe just cared that we could wave that banner to the person who was voting and say that we got a conviction, and our conviction rate was high.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These days, criminal justice reform has become a cause that spans the political spectrum.<\/p>\n<p>States have embraced it as prison populations have ballooned despite historically low crime rates. Texas has led the way on a host of reforms, many of which are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.texastribune.org\/2018\/12\/03\/first-step-act-prison-reform-texas-criminal-justice\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">replicated<\/a> in a federal reform bill that President Donald Trump has praised and U.S. Sen. John Cornyn of Texas co-sponsored.<\/p>\n<p>In the Dallas DA\u2019s office, Watkins was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keranews.org\/term\/susan-hawk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">followed<\/a> in the office by <strong>Susan Hawk<\/strong>, a Republican who launched a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keranews.org\/post\/dallas-county-district-attorney-unveils-plan-keep-young-adults-mentally-ill-out-jail\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">program<\/a> to divert people with mental illness and young, first-time offenders away from prison.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Faith Johnson<\/strong> was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keranews.org\/term\/faith-johnson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">appointed<\/a> to the office when Hawk stepped down in 2016, and Johnson held events to help people expunge old arrest records and won acclaim for successfully <a href=\"https:\/\/www.keranews.org\/post\/former-texas-police-officer-sentenced-15-years-murder-unarmed-teen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">prosecuting<\/a> the white Balch Springs police officer who shot and killed a black teenager, Jordan Edwards.<\/p>\n<p><!-- meta slider --><\/p>\n<div style=\"max-width: 1500px; margin: 0 auto;\" class=\"metaslider metaslider-flex metaslider-460 ml-slider\">\n<div id=\"metaslider_container_460\">\n<div id=\"metaslider_460\">\n<ul class=\"slides\">\n<li style=\"display: block; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-465 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_watkins-1320x791.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-465\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">Dec. 21, 2006: Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins posed in his Dallas law office. At the time of this image, 19 convictions won by former DA Henry Wade and his successors had being overturned, some two-thirds of them involving black men. (AP Photo\/Tony Gutierrez)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li style=\"display: none; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-467 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_watkins2-1415x849.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-467\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">July 25, 2014: Michael Phillips, left, his lawyer Tiffany Dowling, center, and Judge Gracie Lewis looked on as Dallas County DA Craig Watkins addressed the court during a hearing in Dallas. Texas prosecutors said a project to review untested rape kits proved the innocence of Phillips, who said he pleaded guilty to a 1990 rape because his attorney advised him to avoid trial. (AP Photo)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li style=\"display: none; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-461 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_faith-1329x797.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-461\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">June 22, 2017: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, from left, Dallas County DA Faith Johnson, center, and 1st Dallas County Assistant DA Mike Snipes, right, addressed the media during a news conference in Dallas. Johnson was the first African American woman to become DA. (AP Photo\/Tony Gutierrez)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li style=\"display: none; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-462 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_faith2-1336x801.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-462\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">Aug. 29, 2018: Dallas County DA Faith Johnson gave a closing argument during the trial of Roy Oliver, who was convicted for the murder of 15-year-old Jordan Edwards, at the Frank Crowley Courts Building in Dallas. Edwards was killed a year earlier by a white police officer who shot into a moving car filled with black teenagers leaving a house party in Balch Springs. (Rose Baca\/The Dallas Morning News via AP, Pool)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li style=\"display: none; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-463 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_hawk-1200x720.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-463\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">Susan Hawk talked with supporters on election night in 2014. Beginning August 2015, Hawk spent time in and out of treatment for depression and anxiety. She announced her resignation in September 2016. (Photo: Stella Chavez\/KERA)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li style=\"display: none; width: 100%;\" class=\"slide-464 ms-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/gallery_wade-1390x834.jpg\" height=\"900\" width=\"1500\" alt=\"\" class=\"slider-460 slide-464\" \/>\n<div class=\"caption-wrap\">\n<div class=\"caption\">LEFT: Dallas County DA Henry Wade was named prosecutor in the murder trial of Jack Ruby in Dallas on Nov. 25, 1963. Ruby shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald, accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy. RIGHT: Wade is pictured at his desk in this early 1970s photo. (Associated Press)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>    <script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n        var metaslider_460 = function($) {\n            $('#metaslider_460').addClass('flexslider'); \/\/ theme\/plugin conflict avoidance\n            $('#metaslider_460').flexslider({ \n                slideshowSpeed:3000,\n                animation:\"fade\",\n                controlNav:true,\n                directionNav:true,\n                pauseOnHover:true,\n                direction:\"horizontal\",\n                reverse:false,\n                animationSpeed:600,\n                prevText:\"&lt;\",\n                nextText:\"&gt;\",\n                slideshow:true\n            });\n        };\n        var timer_metaslider_460 = function() {\n            var slider = !window.jQuery ? window.setTimeout(timer_metaslider_460, 100) : !jQuery.isReady ? window.setTimeout(timer_metaslider_460, 1) : metaslider_460(window.jQuery);\n        };\n        timer_metaslider_460();\n    <\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/\/ meta slider--><\/p>\n<h5>Complicated criminal justice ecosystem<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nDallas County\u2019s chief public defender, Lynn Richardson, says talk of reform from prosecutors hasn\u2019t, for a lot of reasons, amounted to the kind of fundamental change the system needs and that Creuzot has promised.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve seen it before, where you\u2019ve had district attorneys who\u2019ve gotten up there and said, \u2018I\u2019m going to do X, Y and Z,\u2019 and they didn&#8217;t do it,\u201d Richardson says.<\/p>\n<p>Lawyers from Richardson\u2019s office will be on the opposite side of cases from Creuzot\u2019s prosecutors, and she says she\u2019s warned her team to be ready for tough, smart prosecution of violent, repeat offenders.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, she says she is excited by Creuzot\u2019s election, and thinks he has the kind of technocratic approach that could affect the kind of sweeping change he\u2019s promised. As evidence, she says, just look at the drug court he set up 20 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe was the one that took that issue, [and said] instead of sending people to prison, we\u2019re going to send people to treatment, we\u2019re going to get them the treatment they need, the resources they need so they don\u2019t keep coming back in the system over and over again,\u201d Richardson said. \u201cWhen he started that, there weren\u2019t a lot of people on board like there are now.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_478\" style=\"max-width:100%;  width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-478\" src=\"http:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert.jpg\" alt=\"Dallas County District Attorney-elect, John Creuzot, poses for a portrait outside the Frank Crowley Courts Building. (Photo: Allison V. Smith)\" width=\"450\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-800x1200.jpg 800w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-450x675.jpg 450w, https:\/\/stories.kera.org\/price-of-prison\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/22\/2018\/12\/creuzot_vert-300x450.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\"style=\"max-width:100%;  width: 450px\" >Creuzot stands outside the Frank Crowley Courts Building in Dallas. (Photo: Allison V. Smith)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Richardson says reform often doesn\u2019t happen because it\u2019s hard, and a DA, though powerful, is just one player in a complicated criminal justice ecosystem: Judges decide whether to waive court costs for poor defendants. Police decide who gets arrested and who doesn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>Creuzot will need buy-in from state lawmakers and county commissioners. Plus, he has to build and maintain support for his agenda, both among the public and within the office he\u2019ll take over in January.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNot everyone in a prosecutor\u2019s office is going to embrace or subscribe to the new thinking that the DA brings,\u201d says Krinsky with\u00a0 Fair and Just Prosecution. \u201cAnd breaking down the culture and trying to give a new vision to the prosecutors, some of whom have been there for decades, is always a challenge.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Creuzot, for his part, says he\u2019s up to the challenge, and says that his agenda is in line with the direction of the state. He\u2019ll be one of five reform-minded DAs in Texas. And he points to a decade of criminal justice reforms in Texas that have begun to shrink the biggest prison population in the country.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ve actually closed eight prisons, but we will probably be closing more,\u201d Creuzot says. \u201cWe think that the policies that we implement will help us get there. Harris County will do so. We think Bexar County will do so. So that\u2019s billions and billions of dollars in taxpayer savings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the other price of prison to consider: It costs taxpayers a lot of money to pursue tough-on-crime policies, Creuzot says, especially if they don\u2019t make us any safer. 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